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First, an assumption: given what I know about tip-sleeve and tip-ring-sleeve connections, using a TRS cable between two TS jacks just yields an unused contact/conductor in the cable.

Other than cost, all else being equal, is there any reason I should buy and use TS cables instead of TRS cables for various connections in my small studio?

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One "typically TS application" that would definitely present an issue is the connection between a guitar with active electronics and an effects unit (stompbox).

The output of the guitar and the input of the stompbox almost always have a TRS jack that is used to power the device on:

One battery terminal (usually negative) is connected to the Ring terminal of the jack so that when a TS cable is inserted, it shorts the Ring and Sleeve terminals to connect the battery to the ground in the electronics.

Putting a TRS cable between two such devices connects their batteries together through the "floating" Ring conductor, with unpredictable results (and possible damage).

Using a TRS from an active guitar to a "universal" input (like on some audio interfaces) designed for either unbalanced TS or unbalanced TRS may apply battery power to the interface unit. It's probably blocked by a capacitor so as not to cause damage, but this is not guaranteed. The guitar electronics are not likely to power on.

Using a TRS cable between an active guitar to an amplifier or between a passive guitar and a stompbox may work, but is not guaranteed.

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  • This is absolutely true and I can confirm that a Boss RV-6 pedal won't work properly with a TRS cable! – JYelton Nov 02 '21 at 20:16
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No, for a small studio, other than the cost difference, you can use TRS in the place of TS cables.

When you start looking at cable runs over around six meters (20 feet) you can start seeing some issues with resistance, depending on what you are using the wire for. The dual wire TRS cable will sometimes have a smaller gauge wire than the coaxial cable that is often used for TS.

Usually there is no significant difference though.

EDIT: thinking about it, there may be some slight durability difference in the two types of cables as well, if you are using the TRS cables in applications where they get flexed often, such as for a guitar cable. The tensile strength of the single wire is likely higher, resulting in a longer life before breakage in high flex use.

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  • I'm pretty sure, at extreme distances, there's also an element of reinforced interference in the 'spare' core, but I don't have the math to defend that speculation. – Tetsujin Feb 19 '18 at 19:57
  • Having just ordered a good few trs plugs ( at good price) I wonder if it's worth shorting the r and s, for better conductivity. – Tim Feb 19 '18 at 20:13
  • @Tim I have used two wire unified to tip in a TRS plug before, when I didn't have regular TS on hand. – Alphonso Balvenie Feb 20 '18 at 19:53
  • @Tetsujin Unless the spare core is somehow connected to your circuit, it should just be dead mass with no EM characteristics. I could be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure you have to have poor insulation or a large amount of metal for reinforced interference to happen. – Alphonso Balvenie Feb 20 '18 at 19:58
  • For me, the tip is the tip. I'm more concerned about the point on the shaft which contacts the sleeve. If the ring is anywhere near, here may be problems. – Tim Feb 20 '18 at 21:01
  • @Tim There are industry manufacturing standards set up for the distances for the TR (RRR) S connectors. A correctly manufactured TS connector should have the sleeve connector lower than where the Ring connector goes. A manufacturer not following industry standard would likely not be selling those products for very long. It it is unlikely that you would encounter a non-standard connector. – Alphonso Balvenie Feb 21 '18 at 20:08
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I wouldn't use a TRS cable in a TS socket because it's a tossup whether or not R makes contact or not. So you have a connection that will willy-nilly add a twisted core redundant core in parallel to the shield and not. This is quite unlikely not to result in handling noise.

In addition, a TS cable is coaxial and usually intended for high-gain high-impedance connections. A TRS cable (the twisted-pair variant for balanced connections, not a stereo cable) is not coaxial and intended for low-gain low-impedance connections. Not being coaxial means that it has quite higher parasitic capacities and inductivities than a straight coaxial cable which has a fixed geometry and dielectric between shield and core. This is important for high-impedance connections.

In contrast, a TS cable in a TRS socket is well-defined behavior and is often used for audio equipment that may accept balanced or unbalanced connections.

  • This is very interesting. Exactly the kind of electrical concerns I was wondering about. Is it then accurate to say that the S contact point position in a given jack could sometimes be contacting the R on the plug, or even bridging R and S? – JYelton Feb 19 '18 at 22:05
  • Could you translate the middle paragraph into words that make sense to the man in the street, please. I'm lost. – Tim Feb 20 '18 at 08:06
  • I didn't get into it in my answer because there are too many variables in wire type used in the construction of the TRS cables. From what I've seen in audio cables, the shielded twisted pair wire is less common than parallel cladded wire. Seeing a detectable difference should only show up in long cable runs. – Alphonso Balvenie Feb 20 '18 at 19:49
  • Also, if the manufacturer of the connection parts are following industry specification, then the sleeve connector should not be connecting to the ring location. It would have to be a highly deviant input connector to do that. – Alphonso Balvenie Feb 20 '18 at 19:57
  • @Tim A coaxial cable means that one conductor is nestled within the other; think of the wire shielding on a cable with a center conductor (like "coax" cable you use for cable television) wrapped in a plastic or synthetic material (the dielectric). What user48234 is saying is that the cable construction has certain characteristics which may be better for applications that just use TS jacks. – JYelton Feb 22 '18 at 04:03
  • @AlphonsoBalvenie My sentiments exactly - I don't think my short (<5 meter) cable runs will be a problem. Also I agree that it would be highly unusual or rare to find a TS jack improperly connecting to or bridging the R. Though if problems arise, the meter will help rule that in or out! – JYelton Feb 22 '18 at 04:05
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TRS cable may not work with active guitars, sometimes the additional pin causes short circuit.

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    It's a valid point, but could you explain more how the short circuit occurs and what is its role in guitar with active electronics? – user1079505 Nov 02 '21 at 20:31
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    Most guitars switches off the active circuit when no cable is plugged in to save battery. When you plug TRS jack into the plug, ring might cause a short circuit and prevent the activation of the circuit. I experienced this situation and here is a detailed explanation: https://www.talkbass.com/threads/active-bass-doesnt-work-through-focursite-scarlett.1474854/ – Fatih İlhan Nov 03 '21 at 23:21
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Cutting all the nonsense - use TS for mono and TRS for balanced and appropriate cables - why? Because you don't know what the female socket on mono will touch - in ideal world, yes it should touch ground but in practice I had few cases that it was getting second leg of balanced signal (interface to amp as example). If you can't afford proper cables then I would say, try TRS and then TS - in 80%-90% cases it should be ok, if there is difference in signal use proper one.

  • The stereo/mono distinction is different from the balanced/unbalanced though both can *under some circumstances* imply a change from 1 conductor + ground to 2 conductors + ground. – Theodore Apr 12 '22 at 19:09