For questions about the threefold repetition rule, which states a player can claim a draw if it's his/her move and a position has appeared / is about to appear which happened before at least twice.
Questions tagged [threefold-repetition]
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Why do GMs repeat moves instead of offering a draw?
Watching recaps of the 2021 Candidates Tournaments, so many games end in consecutive repeating moves. I have a general impression that lots of top level games are drawn by repeating moves. Why do the grandmasters do this instead of offering a draw?
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Why did this legendary game of Carlsen vs Nakamura not trigger threefold-repetition after move 5?
As far as I can tell, the position is the same after move 1, after move 3, and after move 5, so why does the game last until move 6 is done? Did it not get claimed as a draw by either player?
[fen "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq…
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FIDE threefold repetition and possible moves
FIDE rules section 9.2 says:
Positions are considered the same if and only if the same player has
the move, pieces of the same kind and colour occupy the same squares
and the possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same.
Thus…
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If repetition loses, who wins KvK?
Suppose we're playing a version of chess where you lose if you repeat once an earlier position (position = arrangement of pieces + who's move it is). We're down to the wire, and we've just arrived at the position after the 30th capture, with only…
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What is the order of actions in chess under FIDE rules?
Reading some recent posts about the 50 move rule made me realize that I've never seen an explicit order of actions for chess. By way of comparison, the order of actions in Monopoly is given here:
(1) Throw the dice
(2) Move the indicated distance or…
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Can a threefold repetition be claimed in a blitz game? If so, how?
Can one claim a draw by threefold repetition in a blitz game when no score of the game is being kept? If so, how?
Once, in a blitz game, my opponent was simply trying to run me out of time. At a certain point in the game, I pointed out to him that…
NM Wesley Falcao
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Rules: Is this position a draw?
Is this position a draw?
[FEN ""]
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Ng1 Ng8 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Ng1 Ng8
I don't mean to ask the age-old question "Is chess a draw?"; four moves have been played here, returning to the starting position. Since the start position has appeared…
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Rules: How does right to castle and en passant get considered for the purpose of calculating a threefold repetition?
I'm writing a chess app, and have some questions regarding the intricacies of the threefold repetition rules.
As of 2018, the FIDE handbook has this to say about what constitutes identical positions for the purpose of threefold repetitions.
9.2.2 …
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Is there a record for threefold repetition for when the claimed positions are the farthest apart, in terms of moves?
That’s one long question, so let’s break it down. Threefold repetition, as many know, is when a draw occurs, after the same position, with all piece types on the same square, all possible moves and rights are the same, happens three times in a game…
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What if threefold repetition occurs in WCC 2018?
It is not allowed to draw till move 30. Are the players forced to find another moves in case of threefold repetition?
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Does permanent loss of castling rights reset three fold repetition?
Threefold repetition requires that the same "potential for moves". For example, if an en passant move could be played in one position but not another, it does not count as the same position.
With respect to threefold repetition, would the positions…
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Threefold repetition in view of castling rights
In view of castling rights, an aspiring rules lawyer could ask: when does threefold repetition support a draw claim? Technical example:
[fen ""]
[title "Illustration of castling rights"]
[startply "13"]
[startflipped "0"]
1. e4 g6 2. b3 Bg7 3. g3…
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Does threefold repetition apply in a rapid game?
I had a winning position in a 10+5 OTB game, but I was low on time. I repeated position to gain some time. My opponent stopped the clock and claimed a draw. The arbiter was called, ans ww agreed that the position had been repeated three times. The…
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What is the longest possible sequence of double checks?
The record for the most mutual checks in a legal position is known. But what is the record for double checks? There is one rule-threefold repetition applies. Four criteria exist-promoted pieces allowed and not along with forced, Black defends, and…
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How can I find games from grandmasters that end in threefold repetition?
When I go to http://www.chessgames.com/, I can search for matches that end in draws. However, I can not figure out how to filter those draws to specifically threefold repetition. How can I find these types of draws while filtering out the rest?
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