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I am trying to replace an electricity-hungry whole-house electric furnace with something that will be more cost-effective. I live in a high-altitude part of New Mexico, where I don't need to use much A/C, but need a more efficient heater for the winters.

While looking at brochures of the most efficient heat pumps, I found a slightly older model of the product I'm considering purchasing had a new Energy Star "Energyguide" label. The label was added to the product page only 15 days ago.

The label has a long list of states "Federal law prohibits installation of this unit in other states." California, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico are banned states. See the energy guide.

Energyguide label example

Why would a highly energy efficient heat pump be illegal in this region? Is that a suggestion that this product is not going to be energy efficient in my climate? Should I be able to infer that the newer models will be banned soon too, Energy Star just takes time to create the Energyguides?

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    Well, for one thing it is not 'highly' efficient, 14 seer is pretty much the minimum you see nowadays. Maybe those states require 16 seer. – Glen Yates Jun 22 '22 at 14:51
  • Strangely the marketing was saying it was 20 seer. – Village Jun 22 '22 at 14:54
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    Talk to local installers and find out what heat pumps they are installing and what is working best. – Jim Stewart Jun 22 '22 at 15:44
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    I note that the label in your picture says `XYZ Corporation`. Is this a _real_ label from the heat pump you're planning on getting or is this just a sample label? – FreeMan Jun 22 '22 at 17:04
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    @FreeMan That maybe explains it! I had clicked on the "Energy details" link from the product page, and it took me to that PDF. I assumed that was the Energy Star label for the product I had chosen. I couldn't understand why the recommended, most energy-efficient equipment from my local HVAC company would be illegal. – Village Jun 22 '22 at 18:37
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    Maybe I'm missing something but doesn't the "Cooling Only" bit on the upper part of the label mean it isn't suitable for your purposes anyway? – Jack Aidley Jun 23 '22 at 07:34
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    @JackAidley: Note the OP's comment right above yours; this is a sample label that they confused with the label for the unit they were interested in. – Michael Seifert Jun 23 '22 at 13:58
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    It's also weird that they'd list the 46 states (& territories) where it IS allowed, rather than simply listing the 4 where it ISN'T and change the text accordingly... – Darrel Hoffman Jun 24 '22 at 14:02
  • If you want to save on electricity, a heat pump isn't the thing you want. In the UK, the only reason heat pumps are anywhere near viable, is because the price of gas has more than doubled in the last 6 months. All these people who are busily ripping out gas boilers and installing heat pumps are going to be in for a shock in 12 months time, when their electricity bills are still sky high, but the price of gas has dropped back to 'normal' levels (hopefully) and all those still with gas systems are paying less. – Neil Jun 24 '22 at 14:29
  • Your best long-term plan might be to plant trees now, for firewood in 20-30 years if you have the land. – Criggie Jun 25 '22 at 03:08
  • @Criggie until you consider the medical bills associated with lung damage resulting from the wood fireplace.. – dalearn Jun 25 '22 at 18:38
  • @DarrelHoffman That probably is due to legal reasons. Explicitly stating where and what it's allowed to be used for is the norm. – Mast Jun 25 '22 at 22:34

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While the SEER given on the label is in compliance with the regional standards for the Southwest, it must also meet an EER standard. Specifically, the regional standards are:

  • Southwest (AZ, CA, NM, NV): SEER greater than 14 and EER greater than 12.2 for units rated at less than 45,000 Btu/hr, or greater than 11.7 for higher-capacity units.
  • Southeast (AL, AR, DC, DE, FL, GA, HI, KY, LA, MD, MS, NC, OK, SC, TN, TX, VA, territories): SEER greater than 14.
  • North (all other states): SEER greater than 13.

The EER2 rating of the unit listed is 10.5; I am unsure of how this converts to an EER rating, but it seems plausible that it does not meet the standard. (Also note that these standards will be tightened at the start of 2023.)

As to the difference between the ratings, the SEER is a weighted average of the efficiency of the unit running at different capacities (25%, 50%, 75%, and 100%) while the EER is just the efficiency when running at full blast. A particular unit might be highly efficient when running at 50% capacity but much less efficient at 100%, which would lead to its SEER rating being significantly higher than its EER.

For places in the desert Southwest, it seems likely that the unit will be running full blast more of the time, and I suspect this is why units installed there must satisfy an EER standard as well as a SEER standard. (Of course, this doesn't seem like it should apply to you since your climate is different from that lower-elevation places in the same state; but that's bureaucracy for you.)

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I live in a high-altitude part of New Mexico, where I don't need to use much A/C, but need a more efficient heater for the winters.

Then you're looking at the wrong figure.

The number you're evaluating on is SEER, which is only relevant when the unit is in air conditioning mode. It says nothing about its heat performance.

For heating, the "dumbed down" number is HSPF, but what you really need is a table of COP @temperature. Because you need to make sure your heat pump will actually heat at your worst scenario temperatures.

COP is Coefficient of Performance, or the ratio of "watts of heat created per watt of electricity consumed". Your resistive electric heat has a COP of 1.00 by definition.

With a heat pump it will vary by source temperature. If you beat COP 2.5, it is actually more carbon efficient to burn natural gas in a power plant and run your heat pump, than it would be to burn gas in a 100% efficient on-site furnace. Transmission losses and all.

A lot of the older heat pump designs will simply cut out at 10-20F and send you to using emergency heat (electric resistive heating which is what you already have). Why would I think you should worry about that?

Why would a highly energy efficient heat pump be illegal in this region?

I'm sure one wouldn't be. On the other hand, your unit barely meets the absolute bare minimum floor standards in 46 states.

Look at the sticker. There's a scale of "least to most efficient" and it shows where your unit lands. If you didn't know, that's the bad end of the scale. 13.4 being the worst units going to northern states, and 19 being - well, the scale is handicapped. Many units are available with SEER2 well into the 30's. But that would make domestic manufacturers look bad.

But again SEER buys you nothing, you need COP or HSPF.

I went shopping for A/C units in 2021 in rural country. Everyone wanted to sell me el-cheapo 13 SEER air conditioning units. Why are they all 13 SEER? Because that was the absolute bottom shelf least efficient unit that could possibly be sold in the northern states. And even those manufacturers had to be dragged kicking and screaming up from 10 SEER, the standard in the 90s.

Meanwhile in Asia.... A/C in the 30s of SEER are common, and they're all reversible heat pumps, coz that's how they roll over there. And they work fantastically - see this video about analysis of their use in Chicago winters, for Pete's sake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFEHFsO-XSI

The US industry does not want to make efficient units, because that would cost a tiny bit more at scale.

So more likely than not, you are looking at a tuned-up 1970s heat pump design that was shimmed just enough to be legal in 46 states. *The problem for you is that moldy old tech is laughably terrible at low temperature heat-mode operation...

... which is Your Entire Point Of Buying It.

And again you are after COP @ temperature, not SEER. Heating is a different job than cooling and requires different optimization.

Should I be able to infer that the newer models will be banned soon too, Energy Star just takes time to create the Energyguides?

Yes, units which are deliberately built to barely comply today will not comply in the future. That should be obvious.

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    I've never understood why so many people can't handle basic math when it comes to buying stuff. I mean, it often isn't worthwhile to buy a super-efficient car over a moderately efficient car because the savings in gas (at *anticipated* prices - this year the equation is different...) over expected lifetime may be far less than the extra cost of the car. But with modern HVAC the savings are *huge*. Of course, manufacturers take advantage of this - one of the things I have done is calculate Total Cost of Ownership for computer printers - sometimes two printers will cost nearly the same to buy – manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact Jun 24 '22 at 01:31
  • but one will cost hundreds or even thousands over the anticipated life of the machine due to differences in ink cartridges and toner cartridges. But most people can't be bothered with math - they just blindly buy whatever is on sale. (OK, this year people can't be so picky, but in "normal" times...) – manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact Jun 24 '22 at 01:32
  • @manassehkatz I'm lazier than that, so I just go with enterprise grade stuff. Those people do TLC analysis. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Jun 24 '22 at 01:47
  • Why is there a political comment in this answer? – Davidw Jun 25 '22 at 03:29
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    @Davidw because Americans' refusal to adopt emerging tech is absolutely disgraceful. We should be inventing the stuff, not getting lapped in the world market. Of course there's a reason we won't embrace world-improving tech, but that's... *political*. – Harper - Reinstate Monica Jun 25 '22 at 03:43
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I think this statement from a Carrier product page might hold the answer:

This model may not be eligible for installation in the Southwest region of the country, based on Department of Energy minimum efficiency standards in place as of January 1, 2015. Ask your Carrier® expert to ensure your new air conditioner meets government regulations for your area.

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    Here's a [DOE brochure](https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2015/11/f27/CAC%20Brochure.pdf) detailing the regional standards. – Michael Seifert Jun 22 '22 at 15:20
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The chart indicates that the heatpump could do much better. It's at 14.3 while the chart goes from 14 to 19. This suggests that there are more efficient heatpumps that you can acquire.

Doing a random search got me a rating of 18 for a heatpump.

Those states have decided that the minimum rating for a new install must be higher than shown in the example.

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    And I wouldn't be surprised if some states have an automatic sliding scale - perhaps "all new units must be at least 80% as efficient as the average of all units sold in the past year nationwide" or some such. – manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact Jun 22 '22 at 15:38
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    @manassehkatz-Moving2Codidact If that is common, then if efficiency increases not super fast, who can buy the other 80%…? – gerrit Jun 23 '22 at 07:44
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    @gerrit existing installs could keep them, or they could be recycled, and it's not 80% of units that would be banned, but units less efficient than 80% of the average – user253751 Jun 23 '22 at 11:57