I have read and followed the instructions in this question (and these). I'm working with a fresh installation of Ubuntu 16.04.3, with xfce4 installed. But after installing upstart-sysv and sysvinit-utils and doing update-initramfs -u, I can no longer boot -- the screen simply goes blank. So I have no idea what's wrong. Any ideas what to try?
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Debian is off topic and Ubuntu is 16.04 . Is it possible, probably, easy to do, no and systemd is here to stay so I advise you learn to live with it. FWIW, AFIK, systemd is easier to work with although there is a bit of an adjustment, the majority of the adjustment is simplification of boot scripts. – Panther Jan 29 '18 at 23:44
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Fixed the typo - I'm talking about Ubuntu of course. I know systemd is here to stay, but apparently it used to be possible to remove it, but I'm not succeeding. I'm interested in *how* to do it, or knowing that it can't be done anymore. – arjan Jan 29 '18 at 23:48
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It used to be for one release: 15.04, when it was first introduced. The option is not supported after that. – muru Jan 30 '18 at 01:10
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No, you can no longer usefully remove systemd, and for good reason. Many packages depend on it. Packages may ship configuration files that work with systemd and no other init system.
There is no practical, simple way to find out how much would break if you somehow managed to manually remove systemd and replace it with other init system. Even if you managed to do so, the system would not remain stable, as package updates and new installs would expect that systemd was present.
If you feel strongly that you don't want systemd in your system, I recommend using Linux distribution that is not based on it.
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